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Both sides make all three

The sorting is not a weapon for one side. On this record each side made claims of every kind, and each side answered the other in the wrong one.

Claims this part is about, and what each was answered with

The claimKindAnswered with

Teams that sit together ship faster

Empirical→A study

Work should be something you go to

Value≠A study

A statement about what work is, answered with a productivity paper

The lease runs to 2031 and the rent review falls next year

Interest→A statement about who pays

Said once, in a finance update

Empirical — could be settled by evidence: 1Value — about what matters, not settleable by evidence: 1Interest — about who pays, settleable only by saying so: 1→Answered in its own kind: 2≠Answered in another kind: 1

three claims · one empirical, one value and one interest · one was answered with the wrong kind of answer

One claim of each kind, from the twenty-four counted here.

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Four claims from each direction, by kind

The claimKindAnswered with

A company is a place, not a login

Value≠A study

Teams that sit together ship faster

Empirical→A study

The lease runs to 2031 and the rent review falls next year

Interest→A statement about who pays

Said once, in a finance update

Young people are owed the experience of working near others

Value≠A study

People should be free to choose where they live

Value→A principle

Remote workers put in longer hours than office workers

Empirical·Nothing; it was never answered

The travel time and fares fall entirely on the employee

Interest·Nothing; it was never said out loud

Flexibility is what the last five years were for

Value≠A study
Empirical — could be settled by evidence: 2Value — about what matters, not settleable by evidence: 4Interest — about who pays, settleable only by saying so: 2→Answered in its own kind: 3≠Answered in another kind: 3·Never answered: 2

eight claims · two empirical, four value and two interest · three were answered with the wrong kind of answer · two were never answered at all

Eight of the twenty-four, four from each side of the argument.

There is a way of reading this site that is wrong and tempting: that sorting claims is a technique for showing that one side is arguing badly.

It is not, and the record does not support it. Each side made claims of all three kinds, each side reached for the empirical register when it suited, and each side answered the other in the wrong kind at about the same rate.

The same four moves, in both directions

Move From the office side From the other side
A value stated as a value "Showing up for each other is part of what a team is" "People should be free to choose where they live"
A value dressed as a finding "Offices are more productive" "Nobody is less productive at home"
An empirical claim with no evidence behind it "Hybrid teams make worse decisions" "Remote workers put in longer hours"
A cost left unsaid The lease The childcare arrangements

Four rows, two columns, the same behaviour in each. Nothing in this distribution is about which position anybody holds; it is about what an argument does to the people in it.

The symmetry that is real, and the one that is not

Real: both sides make all three kinds, both reach for the empirical register beyond what they can support, and both leave their costs unstated.

Not real: the costs are not symmetrical in size or in visibility. On this record four of five costs fell mostly on individuals, and the one that fell on the organisation was the only one anybody mentioned. That asymmetry is a fact about where costs are recorded, not about anybody's conduct, and noticing it is not taking a side.

Holding both of those at once is the whole difficulty of writing about this. The argument is conducted symmetrically badly and the stakes in it are not symmetric. Either half on its own gives a false picture.

What follows for how to use the sorting

Three rules, and the third matters most.

  1. Sort your own first. If you have not found a claim of your own that is of the wrong kind, you have not been sorting, you have been scoring.
  2. Concede the sorting out loud when it goes against you. "You are right that this is a view and not a finding" costs almost nothing and changes the register of a whole meeting.
  3. Never use the sorting to dismiss a claim. A value claim sorted correctly is not thereby defeated. It is placed. The reply to it is still owed, and the reply is another value or a trade, not a dismissal.

The third rule is the one most often broken by people who have just learned this. "That is just a value claim" is the sentence to avoid, and the word doing the damage is just.

Where the symmetry breaks usefully

There is one asymmetry worth acting on, and it is about who can afford to go first.

Conceding that your own strongest-sounding claim is a value costs more if you have less standing. A senior person who does it is being candid. A junior person who does it has, in the room's reading, given up their argument.

So the person who should sort out loud first is whoever has the most room to lose a point. On this record nobody did, in either direction, and the eleven weeks that followed contained no moment at which the discussion could have changed shape.

What a one-sided reading produces

It is worth describing the failure mode, because this material is easy to use as ammunition and the result is worse than not having it.

A person who has learned the three kinds and applies them only outwards produces a particular kind of contribution: every claim from the other side is reclassified and set aside, every claim of their own goes unexamined, and the taxonomy becomes a machine for not listening.

It is also immediately legible to everybody else in the room. Within two meetings the response is predictable — people stop making claims in front of that person and start making them elsewhere.

The exercise that prevents it

Before using any of this in a discussion, write down your own three strongest claims and sort them honestly.

Nearly everybody finds that at least one is a value they have been stating as a finding. That is the useful discovery, and having made it about yourself first changes how the whole thing is used: you arrive knowing that the sorting is not an accusation, because it has already been applied to you, by you.

On this record the one participant who did anything like this was also the only one whose exchanges reached a trade. It is a small sample and the mechanism is not mysterious.